thank you so much for letting us into your home, we're grateful. "the beat with ari melber" starts right now. hi, ari. >> thank you so much, nicolle. i'm ari melber. we begin with congress unveiling a plan for democracy, and you might have forgotten it, because it's been nine or ten months since this was front and central of everyone's concerns, but given everything we learned of four years of trumpism, the democrats want to make sure to try to stop the next would-be trump from abusing the awesome powers of the presidency. today speaker pelosi and

chairman schiff introducing formally new sweeping legislation to deal with exactly this. >> my reason for being here is as simple as the title: protecting our democracy act. >> it shouldn't matter who the president of the united states is. we should want that president not to be able to abuse that office to enrich themselves. we should want them to maintain independence from the justice department, not use it as their own private law firm, not use it to go after their adversaries. >> the plan here is not partisan as emphasized. the legislation would have rules to limit how presidents use or, again, potentially abuse pardon power. deal with the deadlines that might prevent otherwise prosecution of rogue presidents. that's obviously a look at the legal presidency of trump. and to enforce the ban on presidents who aren't allowed to enrich themselves. also ideas to better protect doj independence. this is all part of congress' broader efforts at accountability, deal with what trump did as well as preventing another future would-be trump.

and the context here is bright as day. you have this january 6 riot probe continuing to intensify. leaders of the committee there saying the first subpoenas will come within a week after gathering evidence, and today amidst this background, technically unrelated but obviously all related when you look at the concerns about politicians in america trying to resort to or invoke political violence, well, the news today, as well as officials warning domestic terror remains america's top security threat. >> the most significant and persistent terrorism threat is facing our country today which stems from both home-grown and domestic violent terrorists who are motivated by a lot of issues. >> ranging from ethnic bias to anti-government, anti-authority sentiment to conspiracy theories. since the spring of 2020, so for

the past 16, 18 months or so, we've more than doubled our domestic terrorism caseload. >> that's the word from the experts testifying. i'm joined now by melissa marie and katty kay. good to see you both. professor, there are many different priorities. government is always choosing between priorities. this could have been a day one thing, could have been a 100-day thing. democrats saying they work for a lot of other things but now it's time to trump-proof the presidency when they're saying what donald trump exposed over those four years. your views on the substance and the timing. >> so the timing is not unusual given everything that happened on january 6. we've been preoccupied with other things, and as you say, this is not unrelated to what happened on january 6. but we have heard over the course of the four years of the trump administration this whole idea that what we had relied on

just to cure our democracy was nothing but norms, norms which were observed but abandoned during the trump presidency. so what the protect our democracy act does is caudify some of those norms. it requires the president and vice president candidate to submit ten years of tax returns as they are campaigning, something all presidential nominees did going forward, but that did not happen with president trump nor vice president pence. these are norms that are traditionally customary that have been observed. >> like you say, custom gets you twice as far with the type of people who tend to run for president. republicans said, katty, well, if the custom is to fork over tax returns, great, check me out. look under the hood. trump made a wide dispute and

yet the custom only goes so far to use some kind of hackneyed gun saying, no custom was ever going to make him do anything. >> how many times during the course of the trump presidency did we kind of sit with our mouths wide open because yet another custom or norm had been breached and the president yet again had done something that was not technically illegal but was not what presidents normally did. it happened on a weekly basis. sometimes it felt like it was happening on a daily basis. when you look at what speaker pelosi and adam schiff are proposing, there is nothing in this list of things that sounds very radical. require the tax returns, extend the deadline for prosecuting former presidents, ensure access to transition resources. that should happen, right? you would think in any healthy

democracy, disclosed contacts between the white house and the department of justice. we can go through the list and there is nothing there that strikes me as massively radical or even particularly partisan. but professor murray is right, we have come to realize that a democracy that depends just on norms and traditions and is not caudiied is at the whim of a president who is prepared to abuse those traditions. >> katty, i don't want to make light of it, but i will say it's a well-known speech pattern that if somebody says to you, look, i'm not perfect, but -- you kind of start to say, okay, where are we going with this? the united states in some ways has been an example on the world stage, but i don't think anyone with an objective view thinks our democracy is anywhere near perfect. it looks very damaged, and deliberately so within the

institution and within the united states, which is a sad thing for a newscaster to have to say, but i don't think it's very debatable. with that in mind, katty, as our international analyst, take a look at how the president tried to thread this needle on the world stage, knowing what we lived through, afternoon insurrection, widely encouraged by his predecessor. >> while noly country is perfect, including the united states, we work on our ideals to heal our divisions and we face down violence and insurrection. no matter how challenging or how complex the problems we're going to face, government by and for the people is still the best way to deliver for all of our people. >> katty? >> there is not a household in europe, probably not very many households around the world that were not aware of what happened on january the 6th watching in realtime as the seat of american

democracy was assaulted. there wasn't a household, really, that wasn't aware of what donald trump did in bending the rules of the rule of law over the course of the last four years. the big concern for, i think, most american allies is that this could happen again. i think part of the reason this law adam schiff and nancy pelosi are proposing and is so important that you look at 2024 and there is a chance that donald trump runs again, and there is a chance that he would run again and subvert those traditions and norms again as well. american democracy does look fragile. there's no two ways around it. it's what makes allies anxious about saying, yeah, we hear joe biden. he's back on the world stage. he wants to restore america's place in the world, and there's always in the back of their minds, but, where does it go in three years' time, what then?

>> this takes me back to the annals of history. there was a case about segregation in the south but the united states state department filed amnesty in that case saying it could not have america profess to be a beacon on the world stage if it couldn't deal with its own democratic impairments at home. i think trying to shore up our democracy in any way possible is necessary both democratically and internationally. >> and what you're speaking about is a deep level of legitimacy as the world changes more quickly than usual. technology changing the media and the way people get their information, whether they look at it as fact based or evidently

based and you have the government thriving under our institution. >> think of all the things that are supposed to be a check on the president, the press, the courts. at every single turn he was trying to delegitimize them. he said the judges were not people who could be trusted. then he went after the media, every single institution that could be used to check him he tried to delegitimize, and we're still dealing with the fallout of that. >> yeah. that goes to just the unending cynicism which is designed to exhaust us and break us down, so i tell everyone you can make up your own mind, think what you want to think, but on an emotional level as a journalist, i'm not going to be exhausted by it, i'm going to keep doing my job which involves fact checking and a little perseverance. with that in mind, i want to

show this reporter, the "new york times" saying the trump campaign knew as they were making these arguments in court that the trump campaign was based on a lie even as sidney powell and other lawyers attacked and determined that the allegations were untrue. a two-part question to you, professor, as you might give to one of your students, one, what is the legal significance of any of this because there are open cases that are testing and putting pressure on some of these lawyers. and, two, is it ultimately encouraging to you that this stuff didn't work or discouraging that it got as far as it did? >> i think resulting from the mission there was perhaps knowledge already that these were false claims, there could be repercussions and sanctions of the lawyers filing these claims and maybe dismissing it outright. it goes from the batsz of what we're -- basis of what we're

seeing and there was an attempt to push a constitutional law into effect. they know it was unconstitutional. they know if they challenged this under the proper channels, it would have been joined immediately. we're seeing the same impulses, the same cynicism migrate into other aspects of our legal system. >> really interesting, professor. i hadn't thought about that connection, although that's a story we've covered repeatedly on the program. katty, the professor makes this very nuanced point in saying that, oh, they devised a plan in texas that will be harder for the courts to review, they're admitting that they either believe or worry that what the courts find will be unconstitutional. so they're publicly saying, hey, look at our clever plot to avoid the thing our entire system is governor earned on in the united

states that no single power is covered. i would say as a legal matter, it's probably violating constitutional law and roe v. wade is quite a doozy. given everything we touched on, katty, i give you the last word on any of the above. >> i guess that's why the supreme court was very careful about saying this was not a cause for constitution, and in texas they wanted to run away from the constitution as much as they could because on that particular issue they're on much shakier ground. is there cynicism? of course, there is. president trump says i lost the election, and giuliani says, i can find you the lawsuits, find you the cases, sort of pulling a rabbit out of the hat for donald

trump, and he said i'll give it a go and that led to the january 6 attack on the capitol with huge ramifications about a real awareness, and maybe this is the glass half full interpretation of this, ari, is that we do now have an awareness of the potential fragility of the system. you could say yes, the system held, the court held, the press held, but you could also say what you were saying earlier. it depended on a few individuals in georgia and a governor down in arizona. it depended on certain individuals who were prepared to buck their own system. it shouldn't be like that. it cannot depend on a few individuals doing the right thing in the face of enormous amount of pressure. i guess the optimistic interpretation is that now you have members of congress trying to deal with that. >> we always learn a lot from you, katty. we love the optimism. i can't go half full with you. i'll go a third full. that's as far as i can go. >> i'm trying. i'm trying. it's tuesday. >> it is tuesday. it is tuesday.

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this is america. people who live in america have many inalienable rights from freedom of religion to freedom of thought to freedom to take all kinds of actions. but let's be clear. the limits always kick in if you endanger other people. this has gotten a little confused these days, so let me put it as simply as possible. you have the right to believe that you drive even better when you're drunk. you can think that. you don't have the right to drive drunk in america without consequences, because it endangers other people. there are many ways to get into this. right now we're thinking along the lines of covid and vaccinations, because this is the exact point today, sadly, a newly widowed woman in iowa has

made this week, her vaccinated husband dying of covid after spending time with unvaccinated people indoors who refused to wear masks. >> i have family members that don't agree with me. and i guess that's their right. but gary and i had rights, too. and he doesn't have them anymore. >> she's not alone in how she's feeling. a lot of this does come back to what we think and what we feel. it has been a devastating year. many were locked down, many were dreaming of the type of thing that would let us out freely, vaccines. there are growing reports of how people who are unvaccinated and aggressively so, sometimes not following safety rules and other precautions, are drawing scorn, contempt and resentment among the many people who have played by the rules. now, there's more than one way to come at this, but we should be careful not to be overly

euphymystic. we don't listen to howard stern often, but boy did he put up headlines. >> all the [ bleep ] in our country who won't get vaccinations. what the [ bleep ]? now we're trapped in a country with imbeciles. we don't have time for idiots anymore. >> this may become a political dynamic. in fact, 59% of californians say they're refusing to get vaccinated are the same people who put people at risk, backing up governor newsom delivering a, quote, historic embarrassment

with efforts to oust him largely over covid-safety issues. he trounced conservatives, complaining about mask mandates or giving voice to why credible people don't need to get vaccinated. they argue that the democrats in california, at least, cater to the vaccinated people, people who play by the rules. democrats have avoided anger while the gop has embraced it. that appears to be changing. republican newt gingrich was angry about everything, republicans so angry they rode that wave all the way through the tea party, the queen of rage who was proud of it, book titles

read like the word anger, from rage to "fire and fury." it's a lot of rage we see from republican leaders, often not clear what he's angry about. take ted cruz. >> as we stand together and defend liberty, defend the constitution, defend the bill of rights of every american in the immortal words of william wallace, freedom! >> yes, freedom. now, anger can drive all kinds of situations, psychologically, personally, socially, politically. what we're seeing here is one party that has largely tried to avoid this, the democrats, are picking up on how anger works, probably more justified than

some of the republican anger we've seen. this is anger about people who might put their personal convenience or their personal conspiracy theories above your family's safety. will democrats tap the anger of the unvaccinated in a new way? >> if you aren't going to help, at least get out of the way. we've been patient and our patience is wearing thin, and your refusal has cost all of us. >> on covid information, what's your message for platforms like facebook? >> they're killing people. i mean -- look, the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated, and they're killing people. >> it may not be a strategy, but it's certainly a mood. one of the most famously measured people in american politics, moderate joe biden, making it very clear day after day when it comes to covid and

the anti-vaccination movement, he's had it. a lot of other people have had it, too. i want to be clear with you because it's not always so simple. based on what we've learned about health policy, raging against the unvaccinated is not likely to urge them to get vaccinated. the persuasion of public health says that's not the way to bring people on board. but that's just one piece of this. on the politics raging on behalf of doctors and nurses and teachers and on behalf of science itself, well, that may not only be cathartic for some people, it may be that the democrats rose to a righteous anger which we've seen in american politics is a proven renewable resource. so is this really happening and what are the implications? well, the expert i just quoted, a veteran of seven presidential campaigns is here, and we're back in 60 seconds. back in 60 seconds an audio syst? why include the most advanced active safety system

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if you're mad as hell and you don't want to take it anymore, maybe you've come to the right place. you hear the music, it's a special day on the beach. we call it chay day. good to see you again, sir. >> good to see you, ari. how are you? >> i'm good. not a lot of anger is created equally. not a lot of people are saying just rage through the week and the year, but as quoted, you argued that the democrats may have stumbled or found something here. explain. >> yeah, anger is a political commodity that has been wholly owned by the gop for over 30 years. it was 30 years ago that newt gingrich and rush limbaugh made the gop a party of angry white males. 30 years later nothing has changed. the party's base is still angry, it is still white, it is still male. during that period, democrats have avoided anger, and part of

the reason has to do with race and gender dynamics as to who is allowed to be angry in this country due to some terrible double standards. obama, if you remember, could never be a member of the "new york times" thinking he could never conduct press conferences the way chris christie at the time was presenting press conferences. >> chai, before we get to hillary, which is also fair, obama was so full of anger that he had an anger translator. >> he had to have an anger translator because everybody understood that a black man in political life simply couldn't be angry if he was to be successful. donald trump did not need an anger translator. he himself was the angry person, the anger translator of the gop base. hillary clinton, if you'll remember, allowed herself that

moment of anger from the benghazi hearings. she exploded and the gop used that clip endlessly and out of context. the reality is that trump can scream and yell his way to the presidency, brett kavanaugh can yell and scream his way to the supreme court, but women and minorities simply are not allowed politically to show anger. and the democratic party as a party of women and minority voters, restrain themselves from showing anger or tapping anger. that has all changed. in the recent california recall, the democratic party has become the party of angry vaccinated voters, and there are millions of them. >> you laid it out so well, and it's interesting because i think what you say will be so familiar to people who have been in environments and offices and social places where these double standards kick in. your point is if you're sitting around in the campaign and you've worked on them, you're not changing that, you're trying to get to 50 plus 1.

so the obama folks are saying in the longer project of shifting that workplace sexism, et cetera, it's going to happen after november. and yet you're also helping expose some of that why there is this sort of gap. to the point you raise, we were looking at the history here. bill clinton was certainly politically adept, and he spoke to the very racial dynamic, you say, with anger. take a look. >> this is psychologically a difficult time for a lot of white males, the so-called angry white males. it's pretty easy for people like that to be told by somebody else in the middle of a campaign with a hot 30-second ad, you didn't do anything wrong, they did it to you. >> given that, what do you see here in what you call the anger of the vaccinated which though not exclusively on the left

leans that way? >> yes, you expect people to get angry with you if you crowd in front of them in the grocery store line. everybody would get the vaccine and we would all agree to end this pandemic. the fact that hasn't happened has led to real anger in the country and it's something the democratic party can very much tap. if you look at the gop, one of the reasons they've been so successful tapping anger is that there is and there was continues to be a feeling by white men that they will not be touched.

that is their expectation and they are angry about it. the gop has been adroit at using that anger. it's time for democrats to do the same. anger is a great tool to motivate voters. the democratic party has done this for 30 years and it's about time the republicans do the same. >> you're speaking about a social contract. in the former it's a social contract being written under some strain but for very good reason given what we want to be if we're going to be in a legalitarian society. absent this super magnetized attack, it didn't have to be this way.

the violation of this medical social contract which from schools to the military is something that evidence-based societies have used before is upsetting people for good reason. so i think tying that all together is quite interesting tonight. if we're thinking extra, we know it's chai day, chai. thanks for being here. >> thank you, ari. glad to be here. tucker carlson running into a brick wall. we'll explain. that includes seth meyers going right after him. that will be fun to watch. but before we get there, an update on that trump criminal probe. we have new details of when the trial will begin and why eric trump is getting mad that he keeps getting subpoenaed. ting me keeps getting subpoenaed reminds her that she hasrioue the farmers home policy perk, guaranteed replacement cost. and that her home will be rebuilt, regardless of her limits or if the cost of materials has gone up.

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the probes into the trump organization continue. one eric trump's lawyers in the attorney general's civil case has now quit. this comes as donald trump's son, executive vp of trump org now telling on television about unlawful subpoenas. >> every single day since my father ran for president, my father and our entire company has been under investigation. every single day we get subpoena after subpoena. >> subpoena after subpoena. yes, that is how investigations work. meanwhile, a court appearance

for allen weisselberg is opening up questions about how those subpoenas work. his lawyer says in public that they expect more indictments in the criminal probe of the trump organization. they found a tranche of evidence in a co-conspirator's basement, and the sounds that there might be another co-conspirator also new. let's bring in john flannery. what do you see here? >> i see the same co-conspirator identified in the indictment. one a calmeri who is chief operating officer, and other one is the guy in charge of day-to-day dealings smerconish. it suggests it's in a basement, it's not in a tower, and it also

raises question about spoil dls -- spoilation. i wonder if the son of calmeri went before his dad as calmeri jr. was in front of the jury. >> and it almost sounds like something rooting against the company would say. >> it's not a move i would make as defense counsel. i think he was preoccupied with the no collusion of delaying the trial, and he wanted to suggest this is not the stable situation it appears, that it's not just about weisselberg, it's about other people. i'm not sure who they are, we're not sure. of course, america wants it to be about one other person that never seems to be mentioned, which is trump himself. in the 15th count of the indictment it talks about how there was money in special's

personal account which was deleted. >> finally, briefly, when they say they now have a trial schedule, is that going to hold? >> probably not. the 3 million documents that they cite, they legitimately made difficult to go through and arrange them in any way thattal -- that allows them to make the arguments they want to make. when they started computer documents, my friends that weren't completely savvy, would print the thousands of pages. what you need to do is index them and then do searches, this plus that. that's the only way to prepare lists like this. >> you need a base code, you need a document room. you're giving me all kinds of memories. >> good to see you, john. >> good to see you, too, ari. thanks for having me.

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carlson that a decision led to her father's death. there is a new conspiracy theory. we're going to play this so you can understand what you are hearing as well as getting a fact check. >> the point of mandatory vaccination is to identify the severe christians in the ranks, the free thinkers, the men with high testosterone levels and anyone else who doesn't lover joe biden and make them leave immediately. it's a takeover by the media. >> you have to remember how many millions of people watch tucker carlson. they see him in a newsroom and they think he's making claims that are true. there is no claim that the federal agencies are somehow using vaccine requirements for a military takeover.

indeed, keep in mind if you drain all of the current polarization out of this, we already know the fact that the united states military mandates up to 17 different vaccines for people to serve. covid, for all of the talk, is just the 18th. carlson is here only objecting to one of these 18 military vaccines, and according to him, well, there's some sort of gender politics at play. this is a dangerous conspiracy theory with some toxic masculinity thrown in for good measure. if you go all the way back, this kind of echos something from dr. strangelove, the 1960s classic where they were worried about attacks and americans' bodily fluids. >> i can no longer sit back and allow communism filtration, communism indoctrination,

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the biden justice department has been quite busy behind the scenes suspects because it doesn't always make the top of the newscast reversing trump policies from police department accountability to prison reform. the doj has civil and constitutional rights policies reversing trump on the oversight and managing choke holds and no knock warrants and in the meantime, many states taking measures to rethinking mass incarceration. that brings us to the roughly 2 million adults currently incarcerated in the u.s. and how a grammy winning artist, christian wrapper is engaging people with a contest to support musicians in prison and raise funds for charity along the way.

>> incarcerated individuals and participating doc facilities get to submit lyrics for the competition, myself and my team will produce the record and the song and the winner on site at the facility and this song will be available for everybody who is incarcerated. >> it's quite a project and brings us to a very special guest. "new york times" best selling author, entrepreneur and quite a rapper. thanks for being here. >> honor. >> absolutely. there is a lot oh want to get into but let's start with this project. how did it come about? what are your goalshe community here? >> yeah, well, i've been an advocate for the incarcerated community for sometime now. i always wanted to be involved

in any possible releasing of music into the system, going to visit, doing shows and the opportunity came about to partner to do more of this type of work and of course, i left that and thought it was a phenomenal concept and often times people who are incarcerated are looked at disposable. we have a perspective this is a wasteland of society or human trash and it's not the case. these are invaluable people with plenty of contributions, some of whom are the most vulnerable people in society so that's why they ended up where they are. what a great opportunity to use some of the ingenuity and gifting and the highlight of it through this particular program. when they get to participate and create and let the world be, you know, both transformed and blown away at the immense talent that exists beyond those walls. >> yeah, as i mentioned, people get hooked in, lyrics, rap is

poetry and song writing is always throughout time culture about helping us understand each other. a lot -- you have bars that connect with your own belief system and with reading a lot, which i think is interesting. i won't say you're the reading rainbow of modern hip-hop but i have a couple lyrics i want to share from you and get your analysis of. this is a song that's fantastic, non-fiction where you say shortly after some things you went through, you say i got ahold of tim keller's books, man, i promise you it's like my whole life changed. andy wrote a book about culture making and after that i had to make a slight change, as for homies, i ain't do it for the money man, i made church clothes out of love. gravity is blowing up and you say i want a grammy and i ain't even tripping on it, i have a mission i'm fighting for. there is a lot densely packed in there. tell us about why you're shouting out books.

do you want people to go read those of is that just important to you and how you're mixing your success with saying but it wasn't only pursuing success that got you to these heights. >> the music is beneficial for other people that would help them to change, as well, and of course, music is a stream of consciousness and articulating what i've been experiencing and i want other people to experience that. so there is a lot of authenticity and story telling that i want to see happen there. a lot of many facets where we're artists but there are many sides to us. the music allows you to say wait a minute, wait a minute, what am i seeing and hearing? that's what you get when you listen to it. >> we don't do a lot of labels here so we could say you're a writer and rapper. we can say you're a rapper who deals with all kinds of themes including your god and christianity or some people use that term christian rapper. i don't care about the label one way or the other but i'm curious

what you think about where faith and religion fits into music and hip-hop now. >> my faith was -- i went through a lot of different value systems and believes so on and so fourth and most of it was me trying to earn this relationship with god, but where my plane landed was less about religion and more about relationship where i believe god reached down and pulled me up and rescued me and so that's a lot of why i do what i do, a lot of why i create the music that i create. i want to paint a picture of a broken person who has been rescued with the campaign, you know, we're caring about people behind the prison walls because folks see them as broken people and they're no good but in my mind, we're all broken people and we need to be rescued, need to be cared for. >> i love that and you don't need to hear it from me but there is a lot of stuff that is built off the negative, the conflict, the glitz. you've been out here for a long time and recognized for it doing

work on a whole different plain of positivity. happy to share that with our viewers and appreciate you spending time with us. >> honor. appreciate you-all. >> shoutout to la cray. appreciate that. some of the most fun moments on "the beat" happen online, not on television. take a look at highlights. >> oh my god, what time is it? >> time to do the interview, ari, put your phone down. >> it's a moment, it's a mood, it's a vibe. >> it's part of the trump m.o. >> he's a desperate man. >> michael and ari. like roger and me. >> are you ready? >> what do you got? >> i'm at the emmies. >> what we need most is not ideology, it's evidence. >> this is fish and that's chips. >> you call me? >> this week. >> okay. >> okay. that's what we do when we're not on tv so you can follow

me @thebeat. we have all the dr. ruth out takes that didn't make air. thanks to all our guests tonight. that does it for me on "the beat." time for joy reid. hi. >> you had me at dr. ruth out takes. have a great evening. >> peace. >> good evening. we begin "the reidout" with a constitutional meltdown the country avoided in january with details of another stunning plot by donald trump and his minions to defy the will of the voters. the power grab is detailed in the book "peril" by bob woodward and robert costa and involves johnest man. he has a plan for vice president mike pence to follow while he was presiding over the certification of the electoral vote on january